Time for armed guards in schools

2012-12-17T13:12:00Z Time for armed guards in schoolsDan Fillinger Helena Helena Independent Record
December 17, 2012 1:12 pm  • 

It has happened again in America. We watch the horrible news from a school in Connecticut about a crazy person killing innocent children and adults in a public place, this time a school, and the day before at shopping mall in Portland. How many times do we watch these types of events and not fully react to them as a community. It is time to place a full time, well trained and armed police officer in every school during the entire school year every day of the week. I know this is a large expenditure, but I think it is past time to be prepared for such an event. I don't think the city needs a $500,000 swat van, but it does need enough officers to protect our citizens from crazy. This is about “crazy,” not about guns.

Dan Fillinger


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  1. claudius
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    claudius - December 19, 2012 12:40 pm
    @MMM - People who sell military-purposed combat weapons profit from those sales. That's profiting off the deaths of the children killed by those weapons.

    Trying to equate mass killers with drunk drivers is as stupid as claiming you have a right to have weapons whose sole purpose is to kill people.
  2. MtMadeMan
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    MtMadeMan - December 18, 2012 3:56 pm
    Claudius wrote: I can already hear the shrill screams of protest from the gun nuts, but it only seems fair that the people profiting from the deaths of children should pony up.

    What a hateful despicable thing to say. Just how do ‘gun nuts’ profit from the deaths of children?

    Oh I get it. You mean the liberal media that profits from endless coverage enticing copycats. Or the Hollywood liberals who profit from the violence pushed on us from movies to TV. Or the liberal video game writers with their violent games that even the shooter was probably playing all week long to get his courage up before the murders.

    Blaming guns is as stupid as blaming cars for drunk drivers.

  3. claudius
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    claudius - December 18, 2012 12:35 pm
    Yeah. A little 60-year old woman, weighing 85 lbs, who never fired anything bigger than a slingshot when she was 10 taking out a psychotic mass murderer armed with combat weapons.

    Granny Rambo. Brilliant!! No wonder the NRA gets away with their obscene lies.
  4. FlamingLiberal1
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    FlamingLiberal1 - December 18, 2012 12:24 pm
    The solution to gun violence is more guns? Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
  5. hahnslice
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    hahnslice - December 18, 2012 11:17 am
    Really? I'm an honest gun owner. We have a few rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols because my wife and I have CWPs. You want ME to be heavily taxed just for owning guns and ammunition? Somehow I am more responsible for the Conn. shooting than non-gun owners? Really? By the way...there are over 30,000 deaths each year from automobile accidents. Perhaps we should heavily tax all car owners....no....instead lets tax any one that owns a tire on something. According to your argument, this will somehow reduce the number of traffic deaths. Really? Oh, and lets make sure we heavily tax anyone that purchases Hot Rod magazine (or similar) and certainly lets tax all those that work on cars for a living. They clearly are responsible for all traffic deaths. Wow. Some arguments are beyond understanding.
  6. Msmith24
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    Msmith24 - December 17, 2012 7:31 pm
    Simple just issue a defender shot gun to each teacher, problem solved.
  7. dietz1963
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    dietz1963 - December 17, 2012 4:03 pm
    You guys do realize there are armed police officers in our schools right? CRA, HMS, HHS and CHS.
  8. 4MT
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    4MT - December 17, 2012 3:18 pm
    Yeah, let's put bulletproof glass and doors on schools and heck, let's just cover up all the windows (who needs sunlight) and have all the doors be automatic locking...there's the ticket. My kid has always wondered what prison would be like so why not just make his school like one! Sorry kids but your ability to have a childhood is trumped by someone's need to own a 30 round clip and a AK-47 (for hunting of course). Your ability to feel safe is trumped by someone who is offended that he or she may have to wait or get a mental evaluation to own such weapons of mass destruction. Won't it be great when you take your kid to school for their first day of kindergarten and they get to meet their armed guards, go through metal detectors and get their swipe card so they can enter a bathroom...ya know, like prison. So kids, to heck with your youth, buck up cuz jim bob can't get through life without 3000 rounds, ya know, just in case. Oy, I certainly hope sanity returns to parents that will no longer allow their children to grow up in a paranoid police state.
  9. MtMadeMan
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    MtMadeMan - December 17, 2012 2:40 pm
    The desire to fix the unfixable after this kind of tragedy is compelling.

    But this will not work. The writer is focusing on one tragedy and forgetting all others. We have had shootings in malls, colleges, restaurants and businesses. We can not hire enough police to guard us everywhere we go. Do we really want to go through a metal detector at our local grocery store? Do you want to be searched for weapons when you go to a movie?

    And do we really want this country to become a police state?

    There are many doors on every school for evacuation in case of a fire. The police can not cover all of the doors. There are many driveways at every school that could not be covered should someone try to bomb a school.

    We can not keep drugs out of schools that cause far more deaths every year. And we can not fully protect our schools any more than we can fully protect ourselves in our own homes.

    Let us not give up our freedoms in the heat of a tragedy only to solve nothing.
  10. claudius
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    claudius - December 17, 2012 1:48 pm
    I had the same thought as Mr Fillinger. We all know, however, that the far right would never tolerate the expense for something so unimportant as protecting children. Billions for ExxonMobil and Halliburton is fine, but children?

    I did come up with an idea on how to pay for such an extravagance, however. Let's put a surtax on every firearm sold in the US. An absolute minimum of 30% of the transaction, whether in a sporting goods store, gun show, pawn shop, private transaction, whatever. And for any transaction taking place within a 50-mile radius of a location with a high rate of gun-related deaths (Chicago, Philadelphia, etc.) it goes up to 40%. And for every transaction within a 100-mile distance of the Mexican border, it goes up to 50%.

    And I would propose a 500% surtax on any membership dues or contributions to the NRA.

    I can already hear the shrill screams of protest from the gun nuts, but it only seems fair that the people profiting from the deaths of children should pony up.

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