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Kids need the facts on sex

2010-07-02T00:53:00Z Kids need the facts on sexBy Rachel Franklin - Letter to the Editor Helena Independent Record

I am writing in regard to the health enhancement curriculum proposed by the Helena School District. According to the Youth Behavioral Risk Factor Survey in 2009, one in three Montana freshmen have had sex, and one in four high school seniors have had sex with four or more persons, an increase from 2007. Kids today are bombarded with distorted information about sex from the media and ill-informed peers. They deserve timely and medically accurate information about sex. Research funded by the Centers for Disease Control proves that sex education programs do not increase sexual activity; conversely some programs actually decrease activity and increase teens’ use of protection. Studies find if education starts before children begin puberty, as their patterns of behavior are developing, the program is more effective.

The district is not taking away a parent’s right to educate their children about sex, but rather providing children with facts. It will reinforce what accurately informed children are learning at home and correct misinformed children. Teachers will encourage kids to talk to their parents, so family-based values can be maintained. They will not be taught what is right or wrong or what accepted behavior is, but rather what is fact. The rest will be left up to you, parents.

Rachel Franklin

Helena

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  1. JUSTDAFACTS
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    JUSTDAFACTS - July 18, 2010 8:59 pm
    jlarsen said: "It is likely that nobody commenting here, on either side of the argument, has read the draft." LOL"

    Well, I guess you can speak for yourself when saying nobody commenting has read the draft (in YOUR comment no less) but I have. Reading it did change my opinion. From not having one to being against a SMALL amount of language and concerns with age appropriateness of the proposed curriculum specific to the 1st through 5th grades.

    The people who seem to think we should accept this draft 100 percent as is, as well as those who automatically think we should deny it 100 percent scare me a bit. Such only proves so much of the commentary is concerned only with politics rather than education.
  2. Purple
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    Purple - July 07, 2010 10:25 am
    Hmmmmmmmmmm, let me guess the very same folks who are pushing for the teaching of sex ed in our schools are the same group of folks who are responsible for this serious lack of intelligence ---- on the 4th of July a poll was conducted asking respondents who the U.S. gained it's independence from --- a WHOPPING 26 percent of those polled gave a response OTHER THAN GREAT BRITAIN.

    How about our educators return to the BASICS before venturing into teaching courses they likely have limited knowledge of in the first place?

    It is PATHETIC that our educators have so utterly and miserably FAILED to teach U.S. History.
  3. jlarsen
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    jlarsen - July 06, 2010 3:41 pm
    dolphind3 said: "I wonder if Ms. Franklin even read the draft."

    It is likely that nobody commenting here, on either side of the argument, has read the draft. Nor would doing so change anyone's opinion. Anything short of a curriculum that decries homosexuality as a deadly sin worthy of capital punishment would satisfy those speaking out against it. (billhaslip's comment proves my point) Those that aren't against it (the curriculum) are not homophobic and therefore aren't going to change the fact that they support it, even if it was proven that there was some language in the proposal that seems to be "pushing a homosexual agenda."

    The fact that well over 80% of the population is genetically predisposed towards wanting to copulate with the OPPOSITE sex, virtually against their own will and sometimes their better judgement, is all the curriculum necessary to "push the heterosexual agenda." LOL
  4. jlarsen
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    jlarsen - July 06, 2010 3:32 pm
    billhaslip said: "YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE OPINIONS YOU WANT, BUT KEEP THE FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!"

    Excellent advice! Have you ever tried following it? I do find it rather humorous that in the same paragraph you spouted numerous unproven opinions, and then told others to keep their opinions to themselves. Irony, yes I believe that is the word for it. LOL!
  5. jlarsen
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    jlarsen - July 06, 2010 3:30 pm
    billhaslip said: "It doesn't matter what i think or you think, it only matters what the truth is."

    Truer words were never spoken! Either we evolved from simpler life forms millions of years ago, or came to life when a bearded energy man in the sky blew his magical breath into a handful of dust. Either we didn't evolve until millions of years after the dinosaurs died out, or 5,000 years ago our ancestors were building little saddles for them and riding them around. It's really all just anybody's GUESS!

  6. gun961960
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    gun961960 - July 05, 2010 10:27 am
    getaclue...come back when you can have a grown up, mature conversation please. Did you really write, "Gerroooossss"....LOL
  7. Purple
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    Purple - July 04, 2010 9:10 pm
    Guns must be writing a book!
  8. getaclue
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    getaclue - July 03, 2010 4:30 pm
    Good lord Gunny! There you go again on you ranting about anal, oral homo.......give it up! We all know what you are about ok?
    Gerroooossss!!!
  9. midlife
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    midlife - July 02, 2010 6:07 pm
    All...the fact is that we can educate our children about sexual health, promiscuity, moral obligation to others and self, how to use a condom to protect against STDs and more violently, AIDS, and how to avoid an unwanted pregnancy with other means of contraception, but in the end it is UP TO OUR CHILDREN to actually USE PROTECTION DURING SEX OR PRACTICE ABSTINENCE (this would be my preference), which has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER THEY WERE TAUGHT BY CARING, INFORMED AND EDUCATED parents, teachers or the clergy WHO WERE DOING THEIR JOB!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD.
  10. billhaslip
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    billhaslip - July 02, 2010 11:27 am
    Lewistownian, I am sorry for you if you think the Bible is just an 1800 year old book. It is the promised, preserved word of God. God loves the world (people) and hates the sin. He wants all to turn from sin. It doesn't matter what i think or you think, it only matters what the truth is.
  11. The Big L
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    The Big L - July 02, 2010 11:25 am
    billhaslip - Please provide the sources of your "FACT" that it is inappropriate to teach 1st graders about any type of sexual activities. Is it in a published journal? Is it in your bible? I can quote "facts" from the bible as well though.

    According to Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 - it is an abomination to "lie with a male as with a woman", and that they should be put to death. Before you get your sword ready, however, I should point out that the death penalty was also prescribed for the following: murder, cursing a parent, kidnapping, not confining a dangerous animal, witchcraft, working on the Sabbath, adultery, blasphemy, and a woman lying about being a virgin at the time of marriage - just to name a few.

    By the way, the translation of the hebrew version of abonimation is tow' ebah, which according to many bible scholars actually is a condimnation of idolatry, not homosexuality as you are indicating in your post.

    You may also wish to check into John 1:16-17, Romans 8:1-3, and/or 1 Corinthians 9:20-21 to see that we are no longer under the law of the Old Testament and that punishment is to take place in eternity, not in this life. Additionally, Jesus' message of repentance and redemption is primary to punishment.

    "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1-2.

    You should not assume the task of judgment, that belongs to God alone - Hebrews 10:30, Romans 14:10-13, 1 Corinthians 4:5.

    Ain't religion fun?
  12. gun961960
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    gun961960 - July 02, 2010 10:58 am
    Well here we go again....lets start with the definition of the word "fact"....since it appears some of you need help understanding this word.
    fact   /fækt/ Show Spelled[fakt] Show IPA
    –noun
    1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
    2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
    3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
    OK that takes care of billhaslip's entire post. Hopefully God can help him understand how to use the word fact. Therightchange...its spelled condom and nobody is giving 6yr olds condoms in Helena Montana so get a grip please.
    wildwilly (nice name BTW) Not that this curriculum proposed to teach 5 yr olds anything about sex (again lets just make a bunch of stuff up) but I think that teaching 5/6 yr olds the proper anatomical names for their private parts will do no harm. And I would like you to tell that poor 4 yr old who was molested by her 70 some year old babysitter in Missoula that she doesn't need to know "nothing" about sex...
    justme, your question has been answered by me personally on several of these blogs, you just seem to refuse to accept the answer. But for you I will give it one more shot...here it goes, pay attention please. They are insisting on teaching your kids and my kids BECAUSE WE AREN'T DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF TEACHING THEM OURSELVES. How do we know that we are not doing a good enough job you ask? The "FACTual statistics" show us that we arent. I would refer you to the following website to review those statistics... http://www.dphhs.mt.gov/statisticalinformation/index.shtml

    And I would refer you to this site for National statistics http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=419&Itemid=177

    There is some VERY disturbing information none more shocking than this, "It has been estimated that the public costs associated with teen birth in the United States were at least $9.1 billion in 2004, an annual average cost of $1,430 per child born to a teen mother"
    In Helena alone we had 333 teenage pregnancies in two years 06-08. THAT STATISTIC RIGHT THERE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT PARENTS ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB JUSTME!!! So you want to talk common sense justme, I say it is basic common sense that we HAVE to do something different NOW. And it isn't just a local survey showing that our kids are having sex at an alarming rate, it is the same result in all surveys done across the US, so stop pretending the results are fixed. If you are not a classic case of sticking your head in the sand I don't know what is. YOU are a prime example of why professionals are needed to teach our kids. You are in denial sir, and I am guessing your kids no zero to nothing about sexual health. I have presented facts and linked you to my sources and I have seen ZERO links to any sources to back up your claims. You cant just run around and yell it isn't right, nobody will listen to you. BTW, you clearly listed "vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, homosexual sex" I am wondering what "homosexual sex" is and why you are so obsessed with it? On a previous post you chastised a blogger and told them that if they were having anal and or oral sex they shouldn't be allowed to be a teacher in our school system. I have some advice for you justme...mind you own business and quite obsessing about what other adults are doing in the privacy of their bedrooms. Darkness, how is hiding from the issue working out for you? And are you suggesting that knowing American history is more important than knowing about our bodies? I am not saying we don't need to know American History either, but I just think the here and now and the future are a little more relevant. I think Helenas teachers and schools are doing a darn fine job of teaching my kids, they are 7 and 8 and both can read and do simple math without the aid of a calculator, their spelling however isn't perfect, but they are working on it.
  13. Lewistownian
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    Lewistownian - July 02, 2010 10:50 am

    Billhaslip, hi. Welcome. Yes it says that homosexuality is an abomination, but you left off the portion about it saying they have forfeited their lives. But let's not stop there while we are on a kick of killing people based on a 1800 year old book. If someone punches their dad or yells at his mom, kill em. If you dad was a sinner, tough luck we have to kill you. If someone praises another god, kill em, and then kill everyone in the town that person lives in. If you don't believe what a preist is telling you (even if the preist is a pedophile), tough noogies, you gotta die. Can we get serious for just a moment and join the 21st century here Bill? Sexually transmitted diseases aren't the sole jurisdiction of homosexuals, and I don't know where you get the nerve to call other human beings an "abomination" and what a terrible thing to say about another person. Your "facts" are nothing but your interpretation of the Bible and your opinion, and you know that old saying about opinions.

  14. dolphind3
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    dolphind3 - July 02, 2010 10:40 am
    I wonder if Ms. Franklin even read the draft.
  15. JMWB
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    JMWB - July 02, 2010 10:15 am
    Years ago when I was in school, sex ed was standard. Since MT's illegitimate birth rate is so high (38%) obviously too many parents ARE NOT teaching their children the facts of life. It just galls me that my tax dollars are going to support these knocked up teenagers when knowledge and use of birth control could have prevented pregnancy.
  16. Darkness
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    Darkness - July 02, 2010 9:28 am
    What this curriculum does is force the issue into a government mandated timetable.

    What has the curriculum in other areas of education gotten us?

    Graduates that cannot count change , cannot do simple math without the aid of a calculator.

    Graduates that cannot read, that are functionally illiterate. That cannot spell without the aid of a spell checker.

    Graduates that don't know even the basics of American history or Civics.

    We are supposed to believe the product of this Health curriculum will have better results?

  17. justme59601
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    justme59601 - July 02, 2010 8:41 am
    I thought I was finished expressing my opinion with the proposed helena school district "health curriculum", but after reading Ms. Franklin's opinion, I have to again pose the question no one has yet answered. Why are their people like Ms. Franklin in our community who insist that someone else besides me can do a better job of teaching my kids about sex?

    Her opinion is wrong on several levels. one, her opinion assumes that what parents are teaching wrong since at least twice she says the curriculum will provide children with facts (because parents aren't?) and correct misinformed children. is she saying what's taught at home is wrong? two, she says the "rest" will be left up to parents. so the curriculum is going to teach kids about vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, homosexual sex. what else is left??? beastiality? three, appararently her information or "facts" is coming from a youth survey. I wonder if she knows what a joke surveys are to teens and how much they do their best to distort the outcome of surveys? I could go on about how wrong this "health curriculum" is, but most of you who support this have already made up your mind and don't want to be confused with actual facts so it doesn't really matter.

    It's even amazing that some of you claim that the the proposed curriculum is "age appropriate" which completely flies in the face of common sense. As usual and unfortunately, the adults pushing this so hard could care less about kids and are just putting themselves in the limelight.
  18. wildwilly
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    wildwilly - July 02, 2010 6:28 am
    You are referring to teens, not 5 year olds. five year olds need to know nothing about sex.....
  19. Therightchange
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    Therightchange - July 02, 2010 4:04 am
    Yes condums for 6year olds is the way to go.
  20. billhaslip
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    billhaslip - July 02, 2010 1:51 am
    Be careful WHAT you call FACT!!! It is a FACT that it is inappropriate to teach 1st graders about any type of sexual activities. It is a FACT that any age students do not need to be taught anything about homosexuality, except how deadly the diseases that come from homosexuality are. The Bible clearly states that homosexual behavior is an abomination in Gods eye and should not be tolerated. Abortion is currently legal in this country but it is a Fact that 4100 abortions per day in this country should be a very bad crime!!!! The Bible says that John the Baptist knew Jesus when he was still in the womb. These are the FACTS The Kids Should know!!!!! YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE OPINIONS YOU WANT, BUT KEEP THE FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!

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